Forest Road 164 is an out-and-back trail that travels in a northern direction, beginning at Perkinsville Road and ending at the trailhead for River Trail #517. The trail has some sections of loose dirt and rock but can be easily driven in two-wheel drive with high clearance in dry conditions.
This trail offers views of the Mogollon Rim and has a high potential for seeing deer or elk. At the trail's end, there is a single campsite with amazing views of Hell Canyon, the Verde River, and the Mogollon Rim.